1 00:00:04,460 --> 00:00:02,419 our illustrious SST president who's done 2 00:00:05,570 --> 00:00:04,470 groundbreaking research on energy 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:05,580 healing he's going to give us an update 4 00:00:16,189 --> 00:00:14,839 I'm not I'm actually not going to give 5 00:00:18,620 --> 00:00:16,199 you an update on the research I have 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:18,630 some really recent stuff that would make 7 00:00:23,779 --> 00:00:20,730 you flop in the floor but it would be 8 00:00:26,750 --> 00:00:23,789 outside the theme of Concilium and and 9 00:00:28,580 --> 00:00:26,760 so you'll get a taste that we can talk 10 00:00:31,550 --> 00:00:28,590 offline and and but I am gonna use a 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:31,560 bunch of my healing data so I'm going to 12 00:00:34,459 --> 00:00:33,210 tell you what I'm going to tell you that 13 00:00:37,700 --> 00:00:34,469 I'm going to tell you then if there's 14 00:00:39,170 --> 00:00:37,710 time I'll tell you I told you and and 15 00:00:42,940 --> 00:00:39,180 and this will be the line of thinking 16 00:00:45,410 --> 00:00:42,950 I'm going to put up a straw man or two 17 00:00:49,010 --> 00:00:45,420 materialism and post-materialism 18 00:00:51,380 --> 00:00:49,020 and I I'm a serious non fan of non 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:51,390 materialism or post-materialism 20 00:00:56,590 --> 00:00:54,170 and maybe I'll go into why that is 21 00:00:59,389 --> 00:00:56,600 during the talk I'm going to give you a 22 00:01:02,569 --> 00:00:59,399 selection of some of my healing data and 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:02,579 the general idea will be here are the 24 00:01:06,140 --> 00:01:04,290 data here are the findings and I'm only 25 00:01:09,469 --> 00:01:06,150 going to talk about things for which I 26 00:01:11,719 --> 00:01:09,479 have multiple replications in multiple 27 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:11,729 independent labs so it's it's not going 28 00:01:15,469 --> 00:01:13,890 to be oh maybe something weird happen as 29 00:01:17,570 --> 00:01:15,479 an anomaly in a particular experiment 30 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:17,580 it's only going to focus on things for 31 00:01:21,679 --> 00:01:19,369 which I have it seriously nailed down 32 00:01:24,530 --> 00:01:21,689 independent labs at independent times 33 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:24,540 and the general idea will be that that 34 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:26,400 neither materialism nor what we 35 00:01:32,780 --> 00:01:28,320 sometimes call post-materialism can 36 00:01:37,399 --> 00:01:32,790 handle the data nor can consciousness as 37 00:01:39,380 --> 00:01:37,409 primary nor can nor can etcetera etc and 38 00:01:43,399 --> 00:01:39,390 so I mean at the very least say we need 39 00:01:44,719 --> 00:01:43,409 to consider alternative models and I'm 40 00:01:46,730 --> 00:01:44,729 not going to suggest I have the 41 00:01:47,899 --> 00:01:46,740 alternative model but as I told you at 42 00:01:49,639 --> 00:01:47,909 the beginning of today I'm going to 43 00:01:52,039 --> 00:01:49,649 reveal the meaning of life and truth and 44 00:01:53,510 --> 00:01:52,049 and the American Way on Saturday when we 45 00:01:56,330 --> 00:01:53,520 try to put the whole thing back together 46 00:01:58,910 --> 00:01:56,340 so right now we're still on the Thursday 47 00:02:01,429 --> 00:01:58,920 defined the problem and my main emphasis 48 00:02:03,410 --> 00:02:01,439 will be defining the problem any model 49 00:02:07,429 --> 00:02:03,420 has to incorporate at the very least 50 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:07,439 these data so the straw man and I just 51 00:02:12,010 --> 00:02:09,209 stole this from Dean Raiden's book I 52 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:12,020 don't know if Dean's back here yet 53 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:14,090 he's in a little little in the corner 54 00:02:18,610 --> 00:02:17,210 but if we look at materialism if we look 55 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:18,620 at common sense if we look at 56 00:02:23,620 --> 00:02:20,930 traditional science and it comes under 57 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:23,630 all of those names then we have 58 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:26,510 hierarchy of knowledge at the base we 59 00:02:33,310 --> 00:02:30,050 have physics stuff which somehow gives 60 00:02:36,250 --> 00:02:33,320 way in an emergent property to chemistry 61 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:36,260 stuff which gives away to biological 62 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:39,290 stuff which gives way which gives way 63 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:43,370 and then suddenly a miracle occurs so 64 00:02:50,590 --> 00:02:46,570 the end result of this is a miracle now 65 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:50,600 if we have a reductionist approach to 66 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:51,680 the world it's going to look something 67 00:02:58,090 --> 00:02:54,890 like this we think of course on this 68 00:03:00,220 --> 00:02:58,100 kind of a knowledge hierarchy that the 69 00:03:02,170 --> 00:03:00,230 world exists out there it's independent 70 00:03:04,110 --> 00:03:02,180 of us thought doesn't matter intention 71 00:03:07,630 --> 00:03:04,120 doesn't matter a consciousness is just 72 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:07,640 whatever out there that is tied to wet 73 00:03:15,010 --> 00:03:10,850 meat and all those things on the other 74 00:03:17,950 --> 00:03:15,020 hand folks take the flip side and they 75 00:03:20,290 --> 00:03:17,960 put consciousness as primary in which 76 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:20,300 miraculously physics occurs notice 77 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:21,680 miracles occurred no matter what you do 78 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:23,450 and then you have and then you have and 79 00:03:28,030 --> 00:03:25,340 then you have and then you have and so 80 00:03:29,980 --> 00:03:28,040 we can put these side by side and I'm 81 00:03:33,190 --> 00:03:29,990 putting up just simplified because of 82 00:03:36,790 --> 00:03:33,200 the lack of time simplified straw men we 83 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:36,800 have traditional materialism whatever 84 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:40,510 name you want post materialism 85 00:03:46,510 --> 00:03:44,930 what does post-materialism mean I mean 86 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:46,520 really it's a terrible it's a terrible 87 00:03:49,390 --> 00:03:47,360 term 88 00:03:56,380 --> 00:03:49,400 it's like postmodern what does 89 00:03:59,200 --> 00:03:56,390 postmodern mean tomorrow after not yet 90 00:04:00,850 --> 00:03:59,210 what is post material it's telling you 91 00:04:04,150 --> 00:04:00,860 what it's not it's not telling you what 92 00:04:05,650 --> 00:04:04,160 it is and so I would suggest in as we 93 00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:05,660 get towards Thursday we start to think 94 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:08,270 of could we have a positive description 95 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:09,890 of what we're talking about here and 96 00:04:14,730 --> 00:04:12,530 this emerging new models of reality and 97 00:04:17,430 --> 00:04:14,740 not talk about it as it's not the other 98 00:04:20,140 --> 00:04:17,440 post material really means it's not that 99 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:20,150 but it's not saying what it is anyway I 100 00:04:25,580 --> 00:04:23,570 quibble so I'm going to talk about it's 101 00:04:27,830 --> 00:04:25,590 some reliable data done 102 00:04:30,650 --> 00:04:27,840 independent labs in done a whole bunch 103 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:30,660 these are mice experiments and I have a 104 00:04:35,210 --> 00:04:32,730 bunch of mammary experiments on mice I 105 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:35,220 have a bunch of sarcoma experiments on 106 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:37,220 mice these are the number of 107 00:04:42,820 --> 00:04:39,810 replications and and modifications at 108 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:42,830 various places universities and labs 109 00:04:47,260 --> 00:04:45,090 oncogenic mice i'm not going to show you 110 00:04:49,490 --> 00:04:47,270 any racy pictures don't get nervous 111 00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:49,500 extremely aggressive and then if I kept 112 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:51,510 going I would have a boatload of in 113 00:04:56,060 --> 00:04:53,490 vitro studies and and all of this I'm 114 00:04:57,740 --> 00:04:56,070 focusing on primarily cancer but it's 115 00:05:00,640 --> 00:04:57,750 not entirely on cancer so what I'm 116 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:00,650 suggesting is I have a lot of data I'm 117 00:05:04,969 --> 00:05:03,330 continuing to get a lot of data and if 118 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:04,979 we are talking about the stuff we were 119 00:05:10,610 --> 00:05:07,050 talking about this morning those data 120 00:05:11,930 --> 00:05:10,620 need to be incorporated into some model 121 00:05:14,330 --> 00:05:11,940 of understanding of the way the world 122 00:05:17,030 --> 00:05:14,340 works materialism is not going to cut it 123 00:05:18,650 --> 00:05:17,040 I'm going to ask you whether post 124 00:05:21,170 --> 00:05:18,660 materialism is whatever that's supposed 125 00:05:23,450 --> 00:05:21,180 to mean and we'll look at some data so 126 00:05:26,629 --> 00:05:23,460 very very quickly just a selection of 127 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:26,639 data or an illustration what I do I 128 00:05:31,940 --> 00:05:30,450 think in very simple terms and so I look 129 00:05:34,909 --> 00:05:31,950 at something that's already thought to 130 00:05:36,409 --> 00:05:34,919 be known many experiments behind it a 131 00:05:38,420 --> 00:05:36,419 whole lot of research is working on the 132 00:05:42,340 --> 00:05:38,430 same problem and I interject a single 133 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:42,350 variable what's the variable healing and 134 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:45,210 so we know what happens before it's been 135 00:05:48,350 --> 00:05:46,800 replicated all over the place we 136 00:05:50,659 --> 00:05:48,360 interject a single variable see what 137 00:05:53,750 --> 00:05:50,669 happens it's not more complicated than 138 00:05:56,750 --> 00:05:53,760 that so an example would be this this is 139 00:05:59,090 --> 00:05:56,760 a mammary cancer the tumor grows its 140 00:06:02,540 --> 00:05:59,100 non-metastatic it's it's kind of ugly 141 00:06:05,180 --> 00:06:02,550 this is essentially a dead mouse there 142 00:06:09,219 --> 00:06:05,190 are over 2,000 publications about these 143 00:06:12,170 --> 00:06:09,229 mice in the peer-reviewed journals I 144 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:12,180 introduce a single variable and then 145 00:06:15,830 --> 00:06:14,430 what happens so the single variable is 146 00:06:17,629 --> 00:06:15,840 you sitting I'm not going to show any 147 00:06:19,010 --> 00:06:17,639 pictures of anybody else but you're 148 00:06:20,810 --> 00:06:19,020 sitting in a lab you're dressed funny 149 00:06:23,210 --> 00:06:20,820 and you put your hands around a cage and 150 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:23,220 then you do my healing technique which 151 00:06:28,430 --> 00:06:25,289 some of you already know and what 152 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:28,440 happens you go from an ugly-looking 153 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:31,440 Mouse to an uglier looking Mouse but the 154 00:06:35,719 --> 00:06:33,120 ugly or looking Mouse starts to develop 155 00:06:38,749 --> 00:06:35,729 these ulcerations and then the tumor 156 00:06:41,219 --> 00:06:38,759 implode and the my secured for life 157 00:06:43,650 --> 00:06:41,229 they're more than cured for life they're 158 00:06:46,469 --> 00:06:43,660 immune to injections of the same cancer 159 00:06:48,900 --> 00:06:46,479 for the rest of their life and so I've 160 00:06:50,790 --> 00:06:48,910 done this many times so what happens 161 00:06:54,629 --> 00:06:50,800 what's supposed to happen what do we do 162 00:06:56,100 --> 00:06:54,639 what changes when we do it and we do 163 00:06:57,840 --> 00:06:56,110 this on all sorts of different types of 164 00:07:00,450 --> 00:06:57,850 cancers this is a different kind of 165 00:07:02,010 --> 00:07:00,460 cancer same thing it might start to get 166 00:07:03,749 --> 00:07:02,020 ugly looking and they die within a 167 00:07:05,790 --> 00:07:03,759 certain length of time there are many 168 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:05,800 many many published studies on this 169 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:07,810 we interject the variable and in this 170 00:07:13,020 --> 00:07:11,470 particular kind of cancer they get cured 171 00:07:15,510 --> 00:07:13,030 either by going through a similar 172 00:07:18,089 --> 00:07:15,520 process that you find in the mammary 173 00:07:20,670 --> 00:07:18,099 cancer or sometimes it just disappears 174 00:07:22,860 --> 00:07:20,680 and it disappears suddenly that's going 175 00:07:24,659 --> 00:07:22,870 to be one of my phenomena and the most 176 00:07:26,820 --> 00:07:24,669 mysterious thing we've ever found in all 177 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:26,830 experiments is when they're cured they 178 00:07:34,830 --> 00:07:28,750 all tend to grow a blue arrow on their 179 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:34,840 back we don't know why that is based on 180 00:07:38,010 --> 00:07:36,130 my understanding of the world I would 181 00:07:40,379 --> 00:07:38,020 have expected a red but it always comes 182 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:40,389 up blue and we simply don't understand 183 00:07:45,649 --> 00:07:40,720 that 184 00:07:48,540 --> 00:07:45,659 so in strawman oversimplification here 185 00:07:50,219 --> 00:07:48,550 here's our materialist and we can have 186 00:07:52,439 --> 00:07:50,229 modifications of that and call it what 187 00:07:54,420 --> 00:07:52,449 you will traditionalists and here's our 188 00:07:56,279 --> 00:07:54,430 post materialist and we're thinking and 189 00:07:58,469 --> 00:07:56,289 we're thinking and now I'm going to look 190 00:08:00,810 --> 00:07:58,479 at some of the data I've found in all of 191 00:08:02,089 --> 00:08:00,820 these experiments and then your your 192 00:08:06,270 --> 00:08:02,099 idea is to go 193 00:08:07,529 --> 00:08:06,280 bipolar think like a materialist try to 194 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:07,539 think like a materials that say does 195 00:08:11,339 --> 00:08:09,490 this make any sense and then you go to 196 00:08:13,890 --> 00:08:11,349 the other does this make any sense and 197 00:08:17,010 --> 00:08:13,900 as we go through the data the question 198 00:08:19,830 --> 00:08:17,020 is who's got the evidence 199 00:08:21,450 --> 00:08:19,840 leaning wit this way or that way or can 200 00:08:24,899 --> 00:08:21,460 either of them account for it that's 201 00:08:26,790 --> 00:08:24,909 really the plot line so I can back up 202 00:08:28,950 --> 00:08:26,800 anything I'm going to say here I'm just 203 00:08:31,379 --> 00:08:28,960 saying it though without the back backed 204 00:08:33,659 --> 00:08:31,389 up empirical data I'd be happy to go 205 00:08:35,699 --> 00:08:33,669 into all of it each one each little 206 00:08:39,089 --> 00:08:35,709 bullet would be a talk in and of itself 207 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:39,099 but right now without the data leap of 208 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:44,410 faith I'm not making this up healing 209 00:08:49,250 --> 00:08:46,650 doesn't diminish with distance 210 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:49,260 now that nice simple statement if you're 211 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:51,770 a materialist does that make any sense 212 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:55,170 can you make it make sense if you're 213 00:09:00,620 --> 00:08:58,320 this does it make sense and if so why 214 00:09:04,010 --> 00:09:00,630 does it make sense and would you have 215 00:09:06,410 --> 00:09:04,020 predicted this going forward so 20/20 216 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:06,420 hindsight is wonderful but if we have 217 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:08,970 this particular hat on would I have said 218 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:12,210 as a predictive hypothesis of course 219 00:09:14,810 --> 00:09:13,230 it's not going to diminish with distance 220 00:09:17,510 --> 00:09:14,820 because of my understanding of the way 221 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:17,520 the world works or of course it 222 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:19,050 diminishes with distance because of my 223 00:09:21,860 --> 00:09:20,490 understanding of the way the world works 224 00:09:23,450 --> 00:09:21,870 you know same thing but we just have 225 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:23,460 different hats on and we have different 226 00:09:25,550 --> 00:09:25,110 interpretations of the way the world 227 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:25,560 works 228 00:09:31,790 --> 00:09:27,990 now if healing doesn't diminish with 229 00:09:33,890 --> 00:09:31,800 distance this goes to the the title of 230 00:09:37,610 --> 00:09:33,900 my talk is there any energy and energy 231 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:37,620 healing if its energy shouldn't it 232 00:09:43,310 --> 00:09:41,610 diminish with distance anybody no and we 233 00:09:45,290 --> 00:09:43,320 can go back to the laws and all that 234 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:45,300 there anybody know an energy that 235 00:09:51,199 --> 00:09:49,050 doesn't diminish with distance scalar 236 00:09:53,210 --> 00:09:51,209 fields scalar this scalar that but did 237 00:09:56,269 --> 00:09:53,220 that energy the known energies the 238 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:56,279 materialist energy is to come it should 239 00:10:00,350 --> 00:09:57,690 diminish with distance now here's an 240 00:10:02,300 --> 00:10:00,360 interesting question is it bound by time 241 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:02,310 I haven't done experiments on that so 242 00:10:05,990 --> 00:10:04,650 I'm not gonna put anything up so if I 243 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:06,000 say healing doesn't diminish with 244 00:10:09,890 --> 00:10:07,890 distance I mean I've got cages of mice 245 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:09,900 here and I've got cages of mice 2,000 246 00:10:13,610 --> 00:10:11,250 miles away we've got all sorts of 247 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:13,620 variants all the way through if you've 248 00:10:18,769 --> 00:10:16,500 got this head on are you scratching your 249 00:10:21,470 --> 00:10:18,779 head going don't tell me that it's too 250 00:10:24,500 --> 00:10:21,480 upsetting because it's pretty upsetting 251 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:24,510 over here yes it doesn't diminish with 252 00:10:28,910 --> 00:10:25,050 distance 253 00:10:31,850 --> 00:10:28,920 well dang there's a dose response to 254 00:10:34,820 --> 00:10:31,860 healing it's not magic they're 255 00:10:37,250 --> 00:10:34,830 miraculous instances there are sudden 256 00:10:41,390 --> 00:10:37,260 things which occur but there seems to be 257 00:10:45,079 --> 00:10:41,400 a predictable dose response as if you 258 00:10:47,810 --> 00:10:45,089 were doing pharmacological stuff now 259 00:10:51,590 --> 00:10:47,820 okay I think I can live with that yes 260 00:10:53,180 --> 00:10:51,600 you see where I'm going with this so if 261 00:10:54,530 --> 00:10:53,190 we you're understanding the way the 262 00:10:57,050 --> 00:10:54,540 world works would you have predicted 263 00:11:00,810 --> 00:10:57,060 there's a dose response to healing there 264 00:11:07,780 --> 00:11:04,030 healing occurs in sudden nonlinear 265 00:11:10,540 --> 00:11:07,790 bursts so I showed you one mouse that 266 00:11:13,570 --> 00:11:10,550 has the miraculous blue arrow the day 267 00:11:16,090 --> 00:11:13,580 before it had a big wonkin tumor and it 268 00:11:17,770 --> 00:11:16,100 was like somebody let the air out the 269 00:11:20,790 --> 00:11:17,780 ulceration that you saw in the brown 270 00:11:24,130 --> 00:11:20,800 mouse suddenly the it's going to implode 271 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:24,140 now this has methodological implications 272 00:11:27,730 --> 00:11:25,850 for people doing studies as well as 273 00:11:31,210 --> 00:11:27,740 clinical applications for people doing 274 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:31,220 clinical things methodologically you set 275 00:11:35,740 --> 00:11:34,970 up a study and it goes ten days nothing 276 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:35,750 happens 277 00:11:42,220 --> 00:11:40,610 healing didn't happen the world is safe 278 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:42,230 you know I can pat myself in the back 279 00:11:46,510 --> 00:11:45,050 and relax but on the 11th day had you 280 00:11:49,210 --> 00:11:46,520 gone that extra day it would have 281 00:11:51,190 --> 00:11:49,220 suddenly imploded what's the right 282 00:11:53,170 --> 00:11:51,200 length of time to declare something as 283 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:53,180 success or failure reasonably 284 00:11:56,350 --> 00:11:54,650 interesting in and of itself now 285 00:11:58,900 --> 00:11:56,360 clinically imagine if you had a patient 286 00:12:00,820 --> 00:11:58,910 and the patient wants to know when is 287 00:12:03,730 --> 00:12:00,830 this gonna work I've been coming here 288 00:12:05,710 --> 00:12:03,740 now for five treatments well maybe it 289 00:12:10,150 --> 00:12:05,720 was the sixth and the same thing happens 290 00:12:11,860 --> 00:12:10,160 in people suddenly it goes away who 291 00:12:14,590 --> 00:12:11,870 would have predicted that that's my 292 00:12:19,450 --> 00:12:14,600 question the more aggressive the cancer 293 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:19,460 the quicker the cure occurs this is the 294 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:22,370 case in humans what I like to call 295 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:26,930 uprights it's the case in mice if you 296 00:12:31,030 --> 00:12:28,730 have an aggressive cancer it goes away 297 00:12:32,830 --> 00:12:31,040 quicker if you have an aggressive cancer 298 00:12:34,870 --> 00:12:32,840 and it's a clinical case it goes away 299 00:12:38,740 --> 00:12:34,880 much quicker the hardest thing to do is 300 00:12:41,980 --> 00:12:38,750 a slow growing cancer now could that be 301 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:41,990 an indication that there is energy but 302 00:12:49,180 --> 00:12:45,650 the energy is not in the healer the 303 00:12:50,530 --> 00:12:49,190 energy is in the Healey and so the 304 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:50,540 energy of the Healey and a 305 00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:52,730 non-aggressive cancer doesn't have a lot 306 00:12:56,650 --> 00:12:54,320 of juice to do whatever it's supposed to 307 00:12:59,950 --> 00:12:56,660 do but if there's a lot of energy in the 308 00:13:01,780 --> 00:12:59,960 system of the Healey it can turn around 309 00:13:04,030 --> 00:13:01,790 very quick what would make it turn 310 00:13:08,950 --> 00:13:04,040 around would it be energy or might be 311 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:08,960 information untreated control mice can 312 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:10,850 become part of the larger resin and 313 00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:13,650 collective and be healed without overt 314 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:15,839 treatment now this is going to exactly 315 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:17,610 mirror placebo effects and I can 316 00:13:23,870 --> 00:13:19,529 mathematically model my mice to placebo 317 00:13:27,740 --> 00:13:23,880 studies I can also model placebo effects 318 00:13:29,540 --> 00:13:27,750 in cell cultures I don't think there's a 319 00:13:32,329 --> 00:13:29,550 whole lot of belief in a cell culture I 320 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:32,339 don't think that placebos are very much 321 00:13:37,910 --> 00:13:34,890 psychological I think there are physical 322 00:13:39,710 --> 00:13:37,920 bonding of spatially separate groups so 323 00:13:43,850 --> 00:13:39,720 if you belong to the religion of 324 00:13:45,290 --> 00:13:43,860 locality and I'm treating a cage of mice 325 00:13:48,019 --> 00:13:45,300 here and there's a cage of mice over 326 00:13:52,610 --> 00:13:48,029 there and that that cage gets cured - I 327 00:13:55,910 --> 00:13:52,620 got trouble so localities not going to 328 00:13:58,700 --> 00:13:55,920 work if localities over here it's an 329 00:14:00,530 --> 00:13:58,710 anomaly would you predict that over here 330 00:14:03,410 --> 00:14:00,540 is my question 331 00:14:05,510 --> 00:14:03,420 would you predict that action at a 332 00:14:07,070 --> 00:14:05,520 distance should happen and it's more 333 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:07,080 than action at a distance which you'd 334 00:14:11,180 --> 00:14:08,910 find in something like a field effect it 335 00:14:13,940 --> 00:14:11,190 tends to be selective I don't know if it 336 00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:13,950 monsters here now but he's wonderful his 337 00:14:19,130 --> 00:14:16,710 wonderful meaning I don't mean to blow 338 00:14:21,980 --> 00:14:19,140 smoke but the wonderful concept of 339 00:14:24,199 --> 00:14:21,990 meaning feels it goes a long way to try 340 00:14:26,630 --> 00:14:24,209 to understand some of the anomalies that 341 00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:26,640 go on within my anomalies and that is 342 00:14:31,820 --> 00:14:29,910 mice here which are mine meaning part of 343 00:14:33,710 --> 00:14:31,830 the experiment and mice out there which 344 00:14:36,620 --> 00:14:33,720 are mine meaning part of the experiment 345 00:14:40,010 --> 00:14:36,630 get cured if I treat these mice but the 346 00:14:41,570 --> 00:14:40,020 ones in the middle belonging to other 347 00:14:43,690 --> 00:14:41,580 people and other researchers they're not 348 00:14:48,170 --> 00:14:43,700 affected at all there's no field effect 349 00:14:52,490 --> 00:14:48,180 there's a selective attachment to the 350 00:14:53,510 --> 00:14:52,500 healing group placebos I would man I 351 00:14:57,079 --> 00:14:53,520 can't say that I don't have it 352 00:15:00,920 --> 00:14:57,089 independently replicated but it's 353 00:15:02,329 --> 00:15:00,930 interesting the more mice in an 354 00:15:08,300 --> 00:15:02,339 experiment the faster they'll 355 00:15:12,650 --> 00:15:08,310 collectively be cured who would have 356 00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:12,660 predicted that and based upon what so if 357 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:14,160 you have an experiment and you've got 358 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:15,690 five cancerous mice they're going to get 359 00:15:18,829 --> 00:15:17,370 better slower than if you have twenty 360 00:15:20,210 --> 00:15:18,839 five cancerous mice and they're gonna 361 00:15:23,150 --> 00:15:20,220 get better slower than if you have 362 00:15:25,370 --> 00:15:23,160 seventy five cancerous mice we've tried 363 00:15:25,940 --> 00:15:25,380 treating mice five at a time ten at a 364 00:15:27,410 --> 00:15:25,950 time 365 00:15:29,450 --> 00:15:27,420 we've tried treating them for 366 00:15:30,770 --> 00:15:29,460 half-hour treatment we've tried 45 367 00:15:32,660 --> 00:15:30,780 minute treatments we've tried our 368 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:32,670 treatments we tried it once a week three 369 00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:34,710 times a week five times a weeks we've 370 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:36,320 done a lot 371 00:15:40,490 --> 00:15:38,610 the only predictor of the speed of 372 00:15:45,710 --> 00:15:40,500 collective cure is a number of mice in 373 00:15:48,500 --> 00:15:45,720 an experiment the more the merrier now 374 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:48,510 this has methodological as well as 375 00:15:54,580 --> 00:15:51,050 clinical applications and implications 376 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:54,590 that's a side bar my question is simply 377 00:16:01,970 --> 00:15:57,050 would you have seen that coming 378 00:16:04,780 --> 00:16:01,980 do you see the world in order to see 379 00:16:12,770 --> 00:16:09,980 sorry didn't see that coming if we treat 380 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:12,780 a random number generator directly and 381 00:16:19,070 --> 00:16:14,550 make believe it's a mouse nothing 382 00:16:21,290 --> 00:16:19,080 happens if we treat a geomagnetic probe 383 00:16:24,950 --> 00:16:21,300 directly as if it's the client nothing 384 00:16:26,540 --> 00:16:24,960 happens but if you run these things in a 385 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:26,550 room and you put your hands around a 386 00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:28,730 cage of cancerous mice they go bluey 387 00:16:36,140 --> 00:16:34,560 blue is a technical term so the random 388 00:16:38,390 --> 00:16:36,150 number generator won't generate random 389 00:16:41,090 --> 00:16:38,400 numbers if the mice are there and have 390 00:16:45,230 --> 00:16:41,100 need once they're cured nothing happens 391 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:45,240 to the random number generator who would 392 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:49,530 have predicted that healing need 393 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:51,930 produces an autonomic response in the 394 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:54,330 brain of the healer and conscious 395 00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:01,270 independent labs functional MRIs 396 00:17:07,550 --> 00:17:05,910 double-blind studies you don't even need 397 00:17:09,260 --> 00:17:07,560 to be consciously aware you're healing 398 00:17:15,290 --> 00:17:09,270 for the brain to turn on to healing mode 399 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:15,300 it's a response to need anyone predict 400 00:17:22,370 --> 00:17:20,250 that the brains of healer and healy 401 00:17:24,850 --> 00:17:22,380 separated by some distance exhibit 402 00:17:27,980 --> 00:17:24,860 connections analogous to phase locking 403 00:17:30,340 --> 00:17:27,990 so we can have two brains go into so 404 00:17:33,380 --> 00:17:30,350 many cross correlations it's astonishing 405 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:33,390 now that doesn't mean it's a sigh effect 406 00:17:39,890 --> 00:17:36,410 is if the side effect is a conscious 407 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:39,900 event I'm not going Oh something's 408 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:41,010 happening 409 00:17:44,660 --> 00:17:42,570 instead of person might but an 410 00:17:47,380 --> 00:17:44,670 insensitive person I have a continuum 411 00:17:52,550 --> 00:17:47,390 from pathological sensitive to bricks 412 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:52,560 it turns out all can heal the same but 413 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:55,290 the sensitive feels stuff and the brick 414 00:18:01,160 --> 00:17:57,930 feels nothing yet they both heal the 415 00:18:04,810 --> 00:18:01,170 same conscious awareness and conscious 416 00:18:09,260 --> 00:18:04,820 experience is not relevant to healing 417 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:09,270 who would have predicted that healing 418 00:18:16,820 --> 00:18:14,490 can be stored in living mice once the 419 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:16,830 mouse has been treated you can use that 420 00:18:21,950 --> 00:18:20,250 mouse as the seed to the cure you can 421 00:18:24,860 --> 00:18:21,960 take blood from that mouse and put it 422 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:24,870 into another Mouse no healing the new 423 00:18:29,870 --> 00:18:28,110 mouse will be cured you can scrape cells 424 00:18:35,780 --> 00:18:29,880 off it inject it into the other mouse 425 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:35,790 that Mouse will be cured we can take 426 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:38,310 cotton we've done a boatload of 427 00:18:43,580 --> 00:18:40,290 experiments on cotton we can take cotton 428 00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:43,590 treat the cotton and put cancer cells 429 00:18:48,890 --> 00:18:45,300 near the treated cotton till genomically 430 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:48,900 change who would have predicted that 431 00:18:52,670 --> 00:18:50,730 we've done experiments with water we 432 00:18:56,900 --> 00:18:52,680 treat water we feed them to mice the 433 00:18:59,330 --> 00:18:56,910 mice are cured no human sees them what's 434 00:19:01,580 --> 00:18:59,340 in the water what's in the cotton how do 435 00:19:06,170 --> 00:19:01,590 you make sense of that and from my point 436 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:06,180 who would have predicted that healing 437 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:10,770 can be recorded and the playback of 438 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:13,770 those recordings can reproduce healing 439 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:17,370 without human intervention Healing can 440 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:19,890 be stored not only in stuff not only in 441 00:19:25,070 --> 00:19:23,280 life but also by recorders we have a 442 00:19:27,290 --> 00:19:25,080 recent publication out a couple of 443 00:19:29,870 --> 00:19:27,300 months ago showing the effect of 444 00:19:32,450 --> 00:19:29,880 recording healing and tension on cancer 445 00:19:34,550 --> 00:19:32,460 cells in vitro we submitted a paper last 446 00:19:36,980 --> 00:19:34,560 week I think on the effect of healing 447 00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:36,990 intention recordings in vivo and we're 448 00:19:40,370 --> 00:19:38,520 trying to see whether we have captured 449 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:40,380 the phenomenon thereby making it 450 00:19:46,820 --> 00:19:43,850 scalable who would have predicted that 451 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:46,830 does that make any sense does that make 452 00:20:01,370 --> 00:19:59,510 so I'm coming very quick auntie we we 453 00:20:03,230 --> 00:20:01,380 can't go through the way York just did 454 00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:03,240 look what works look what doesn't I 455 00:20:07,549 --> 00:20:04,559 don't have the time but we're happy to 456 00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:07,559 talk about that I think at the very 457 00:20:11,330 --> 00:20:09,120 least consciousness studies need to 458 00:20:14,090 --> 00:20:11,340 distinguish attention from intention and 459 00:20:15,890 --> 00:20:14,100 the part that I think is going to be the 460 00:20:18,049 --> 00:20:15,900 future of this and the thing that tends 461 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:18,059 to make more sense is to take out energy 462 00:20:21,260 --> 00:20:20,130 and put in information now the 463 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:21,270 relationship between energy and 464 00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:23,850 information I'm not clear on any more 465 00:20:27,500 --> 00:20:25,260 than anybody is clear on what in 466 00:20:29,690 --> 00:20:27,510 heaven's name consciousness is but it's 467 00:20:32,889 --> 00:20:29,700 that you know but it seemed the you know 468 00:20:50,779 --> 00:20:32,899 seems to be informational rather than 469 00:20:52,159 --> 00:20:50,789 energetic thank you I target right you 470 00:20:58,010 --> 00:20:52,169 have a question come on I don't believe 471 00:21:00,820 --> 00:20:58,020 that okay you said that devices such as 472 00:21:03,769 --> 00:21:00,830 re G's and magnetometers show anomalies 473 00:21:08,149 --> 00:21:03,779 only when something that actually needs 474 00:21:09,860 --> 00:21:08,159 healing is being healed you have yet 475 00:21:11,810 --> 00:21:09,870 they it's in the same room as the 476 00:21:16,250 --> 00:21:11,820 healing subjects not necessarily as the 477 00:21:18,620 --> 00:21:16,260 healer you also said that healing can be 478 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:18,630 stored for instance in cotton the healer 479 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:20,250 treats the cotton the cotton is then 480 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:22,529 used to treat the target of healing and 481 00:21:30,649 --> 00:21:26,130 they get healed in that two-stage 482 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:30,659 process do Jim to do the instrumental 483 00:21:37,070 --> 00:21:34,770 anomalies show up when the cotton is 484 00:21:39,620 --> 00:21:37,080 being healed or when the patients are 485 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:39,630 being healed or both or neither when 486 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:42,240 there's an application only one there's 487 00:21:46,190 --> 00:21:44,130 an application of the healing so if it's 488 00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:46,200 sitting there as potential we for 489 00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:47,520 example have done a lot of experiments 490 00:21:50,690 --> 00:21:48,720 could we tell a difference between 491 00:21:52,639 --> 00:21:50,700 charged and uncharged cotton and the 492 00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,649 answer's no and why even to the extent 493 00:21:56,210 --> 00:21:54,480 that we put it under electron microscope 494 00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,220 so I mean we're not we're shooting for 495 00:22:01,460 --> 00:21:58,559 anything we can't find any gizmo that 496 00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:01,470 can tell a difference between healing 497 00:22:07,340 --> 00:22:04,260 potential and not but when and 498 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:07,350 but life in need can tell whether it's 499 00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:09,570 been charged or not and so it's not even 500 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:15,929 life its life in need I got to go here 501 00:22:20,260 --> 00:22:17,730 and then I will talk go jacking of need 502 00:22:23,450 --> 00:22:20,270 Perron bear did a study in Germany 503 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:23,460 measuring the photon outfit output from 504 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:25,770 his heart during heart centered 505 00:22:32,980 --> 00:22:29,490 meditation he sat in a cold room in the 506 00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:32,990 dark all day and a few photons came out 507 00:22:39,470 --> 00:22:35,580 overnight the investigator who was 508 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:39,480 running the machine his son got sick / 509 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:42,090 on the next day repeated the experiment 510 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:45,290 and the photon counts went way up death 511 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:49,530 only because there was a need the guy 512 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:51,600 who the kid wasn't even in the room need 513 00:22:56,060 --> 00:22:54,210 matters which is why incidentally 514 00:22:57,770 --> 00:22:56,070 methodologically people have been asking 515 00:22:59,870 --> 00:22:57,780 the wrong question of measuring what 516 00:23:02,120 --> 00:22:59,880 happens between healer and healy because 517 00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:02,130 what happens may it depends on the 518 00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:07,830 idiosyncratic needs of the healy so I 519 00:23:13,610 --> 00:23:10,440 have a question Jim partly just answered 520 00:23:17,090 --> 00:23:13,620 it and that is one of the things that's 521 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:17,100 bugged me about your research anyone all 522 00:23:22,159 --> 00:23:20,130 right one of the many things is that it 523 00:23:24,530 --> 00:23:22,169 just seems odd in other words I haven't 524 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:24,540 seen this same sort of thing happening 525 00:23:28,220 --> 00:23:27,090 in other healing modalities I know 526 00:23:30,169 --> 00:23:28,230 that's one of my problems 527 00:23:33,650 --> 00:23:30,179 and you know when we're talking about 528 00:23:34,970 --> 00:23:33,660 Concilium Swee want to generalize so how 529 00:23:37,010 --> 00:23:34,980 much of what you're doing is 530 00:23:40,220 --> 00:23:37,020 generalizable and how much is just weird 531 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:40,230 I think I think it's no but it's the 532 00:23:45,140 --> 00:23:42,210 right question and and and and quite 533 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:45,150 seriously I think it's almost all weird 534 00:23:51,169 --> 00:23:48,690 and so if you compare for example this 535 00:23:53,780 --> 00:23:51,179 is a completely untouched area for 536 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:53,790 systematic research it we tend to think 537 00:23:57,470 --> 00:23:55,770 of healing as some homogeneous thing you 538 00:23:59,240 --> 00:23:57,480 know like it's magic or it's this or 539 00:24:01,310 --> 00:23:59,250 it's that but it turns out just 540 00:24:02,930 --> 00:24:01,320 anecdotally so I'm straying off my 541 00:24:05,630 --> 00:24:02,940 script if it's got to be replicated in 542 00:24:07,340 --> 00:24:05,640 multiple places so these are anecdotes 543 00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:07,350 and observations the little speculation 544 00:24:11,810 --> 00:24:10,169 I don't know much about healing I'm not 545 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:11,820 a healer I know how to study healing and 546 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:13,410 on a generate healing effects but I'm 547 00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:15,690 not a healer the people who are healers 548 00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:17,520 who used my method and 549 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:19,260 use other methods and such they say 550 00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:20,880 there's a real difference I don't know 551 00:24:26,540 --> 00:24:23,910 what that means and and just anecdotally 552 00:24:28,820 --> 00:24:26,550 people who use technique a seem to be 553 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:28,830 able to affect this and people who use 554 00:24:34,790 --> 00:24:32,370 technique B to be able to affect that 555 00:24:37,220 --> 00:24:34,800 but they can't do this and vice versa 556 00:24:39,380 --> 00:24:37,230 and so I think part of the concilium i 557 00:24:43,340 --> 00:24:39,390 think would be really a very serious 558 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:43,350 look at generalizing yeah so some stuff 559 00:24:46,940 --> 00:24:45,090 that we've tested anecdotally and 560 00:24:49,220 --> 00:24:46,950 experimentally no effect by these 561 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:49,230 methods I'm using cancer primarily 562 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:52,170 because it's so responsive but it's not 563 00:24:55,730 --> 00:24:53,850 responsive to most healing methods and 564 00:25:00,620 --> 00:24:55,740 it's in that sense that I say yup it's 565 00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:00,630 weird okay yeah I two questions a two 566 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:02,310 short questions concerning operational 567 00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:04,530 methodology how did you establish the 568 00:25:08,420 --> 00:25:06,240 phase locking between the healer and the 569 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:08,430 Healy we're using autocorrelation of EEG 570 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:10,770 traces or something the EGS and we tried 571 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:12,090 it with functional MRI so it was too 572 00:25:16,190 --> 00:25:13,650 hard to get things to go simultaneously 573 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:16,200 to synchronize them but we have of 574 00:25:21,140 --> 00:25:19,110 locked EEG synchronized and sampled 575 00:25:22,460 --> 00:25:21,150 every five hundredths of a second and I 576 00:25:23,810 --> 00:25:22,470 mean it was you know wasn't a casual 577 00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:23,820 kind of a thing I'd be happy to give you 578 00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,500 a paper on it - all right and what about 579 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:27,360 the technique for for lack of a better 580 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:29,910 word suit casing the the heel what was 581 00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:32,010 it what was 10-12 technique did you use 582 00:25:36,140 --> 00:25:33,990 - suitcase in other words to collect for 583 00:25:37,550 --> 00:25:36,150 for you thought we have to talk offline 584 00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:37,560 I have it published but it's way past 585 00:25:45,290 --> 00:25:39,480 work unless Margaret will give me 586 00:25:48,290 --> 00:25:45,300 through Monday okay yeah okay I've made 587 00:25:49,970 --> 00:25:48,300 it very short then all those things that 588 00:25:51,770 --> 00:25:49,980 you said who would have predicted yeah I 589 00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:51,780 would have predicted okay so there we go 590 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:55,110 and you're up on Saturday yes that's why 591 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:56,610 you're going Saturday because you're 592 00:26:01,490 --> 00:25:58,050 gonna pull the whole thing together I'm 593 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:01,500 on Friday but Oh drat the point the 594 00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:04,410 point that I'm trying to make is if you 595 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:05,760 look at this if you look at the 596 00:26:10,010 --> 00:26:08,310 therapeutic intention research and you 597 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:10,020 look at the remote viewing research I 598 00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:11,970 think what we're looking at is an 599 00:26:18,050 --> 00:26:14,310 information phenomena me - it has 600 00:26:21,050 --> 00:26:18,060 nothing to do with energy and that all 601 00:26:23,570 --> 00:26:21,060 of those things that seem so anomalous 602 00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:23,580 and strange once you think of it in 603 00:26:28,250 --> 00:26:25,740 terms of energy are completely 604 00:26:29,930 --> 00:26:28,260 consistent and in fact they are not 605 00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:29,940 anomalous 606 00:26:34,739 --> 00:26:33,039 that's where I was going but my job for 607 00:26:37,249 --> 00:26:34,749 today because it's only Thursday is not 608 00:26:49,289 --> 00:26:47,970 absolutely you're talking about yourself 609 00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:49,299 being weird and he's sucking but I 610 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:50,799 didn't talk about myself being weird I 611 00:26:53,609 --> 00:26:51,970 said the phenomena are weird 612 00:26:58,830 --> 00:26:53,619 I don't Garrett was accusing me a big 613 00:27:00,479 --> 00:26:58,840 weird it's not how I mean it and he was 614 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:00,489 talking about information in the system 615 00:27:06,810 --> 00:27:04,090 so my question to you is is it maybe how 616 00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:06,820 you're observing reality which changes 617 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:08,679 how the physics of space and time work 618 00:27:14,849 --> 00:27:11,710 and all the laws work so I'm wondering 619 00:27:17,820 --> 00:27:14,859 if it is an information system question 620 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:17,830 and if it's how you're observing reality 621 00:27:21,239 --> 00:27:19,330 do you have any idea how you're 622 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:21,249 observing reality different than other 623 00:27:25,879 --> 00:27:24,070 labs and can you teach it it's the 624 00:27:29,549 --> 00:27:25,889 second question is apparently I can 625 00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:29,559 although I asked epical arguable article 626 00:27:34,019 --> 00:27:31,809 suggesting can healing be taught 627 00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:34,029 question mark because nobody has any of 628 00:27:38,729 --> 00:27:35,769 it really good evidence to my standards 629 00:27:41,609 --> 00:27:38,739 in terms of how you're observing reality 630 00:27:43,289 --> 00:27:41,619 yeah I like the way past my paygrade 631 00:27:50,370 --> 00:27:43,299 will have to talk yeah it's a good 632 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:50,590 [Applause]